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Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 33	Posted - 2014.09.25 16:05:00 - [1] - Quote Instead of fighting on tranquility, more and more people are opting to fight on Singularity. Regardless of whether or not assets are copied over, this is, effectively, a second shard. Even larger groups are using it, apparently, to hold their own contests. (see: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=361122 ) The difference between that and a Dojo, is that with the Dojo, actual Tranquility assets are destroyed in the process, just like the AT. Moving contests and tournaments to Singularity is apparently growing in popularity, yet people are crying chicken little over a game mechanic that would bring that asset destruction back to the primary universe. Sure, scrap the Dojo's, but you have no right to complain when Singularity is reborn into a consentual-PvP server.
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 33	Posted - 2014.09.25 16:12:00 - [2] - Quote baltec1 wrote: It will die just like the PvP in all of those other games did. Do please feel free at any time to provide a list of sources showing PROOF of these overly dramatic claims. You keep repeating it, yet never once have I seen a link showing the financial downfall of a game being directly linked to the addition of arenas.
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.09.25 16:23:00 - [3] - Quote Never played WoW, nor SWG. Still waiting for hard evidence showing decrease in numbers or subs, or some solid factual evidence showing that such changes destroyed games. Guild Wars 2 added custom arenas, and their World vs. World is still going strong, with the custom arenas not used nearly as much. In effect, the opposite of some claims here.
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.09.25 16:33:00 - [4] - Quote Domanique Altares wrote: Guild Wars 2 also never had open world PvP. Both sPvP and WvW are separate game modes that one must elect to enter into. This is fact, as it is with many MMOs. It does not, however, invalidate that the introduction of custom arenas didn't kill World vs. World.
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.09.25 16:36:00 - [5] - Quote Bamboozlement wrote: If CCP fix POS, will you complain about POS being easier to use? You weren't around for the day the whole universe collapsed into a ball of fire when they changed the font, were you.
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.09.25 16:38:00 - [6] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Regnag Leppod wrote: Domanique Altares wrote: Guild Wars 2 also never had open world PvP. Both sPvP and WvW are separate game modes that one must elect to enter into. This is fact, as it is with many MMOs. It does not, however, invalidate that the introduction of custom arenas didn't kill World vs. World. The fact that WvW ended in the games that did have WvW when they added arenas does make that argument invalid. My guess is that you won't provide statistics because you can't, and that for every game you claim crashed and burned because of this spectre of yours, I could find ex-players who place the blame on issues completely unrelated.
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.09.25 18:53:00 - [7] - Quote With so much of the sky falling in this thread, perhaps it is an idea that should be brought to Tranquility relatively soon. If so many people are going to flock to this new feature, that it kills PvP elsewhere, it's bound to be so popular that it increases subscriptions, PLEX purchases, and so on. If so many people are looking for something like a dojo, it simply means that Eve is ready for that change to happen, and CCP stands to profit.
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.09.26 17:20:00 - [8] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Some of us CARE about what EVE Online ( is and want it to be something that is consistent and of high quality. Wait, let me guess. Your definition of "high quality" just happens to align perfectly with your personal play style, right?
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.09.26 17:39:00 - [9] - Quote Alvatore DiMarco wrote: I'm almost completely sure that CCP can't financially afford for their sole product to die simply because a few bittervets are offended. Just saying. And that's part of the core problem really. People are so obsessed with the sandbox going by their own rules, that they will go to any length to avoid change, even if it means killing the game. They literally are so self-centered that they will cling to their obsession of being a "bad guy" even if it means hundreds of people in a foreign country losing their jobs in RL.
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 36	Posted - 2014.09.27 18:37:00 - [10] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: This dojo has a cost, the ships inside would be bought and paid for, all of that is at risk. Yes, but you see, a dojo doesn't provide "tears" or provide any form of sick entertainment for these folks, so it's not acceptable.
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 37	Posted - 2014.09.27 19:48:00 - [11] - Quote Daichi Yamato wrote: everything you want this for can be satisfied by a non-TQ server. So you are okay with multiple shards then?
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 38	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:30:00 - [12] - Quote Daichi Yamato wrote: Regnag Leppod wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: everything you want this for can be satisfied by a non-TQ server. So you are okay with multiple shards then? another person trying to put words in my mouth rather than actually arguing... Are you or are you not ok with multiple shards. Because that is what Singularity is turning into, a consentual PvP shard.
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 39	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:58:00 - [13] - Quote Daichi Yamato wrote: im not ok with multiple shards. If sisi became a consensual PvP shard with an economy it would be ultima online all over again. as long as Sisi is a test server with seeded items, then they can have uninterruptible PvP. Ah, so what it comes down to is money then. You get a perverse sense of power and control out of taking things away from others that they worked for. That explains a lot.
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 40	Posted - 2014.09.27 23:55:00 - [14] - Quote Alvatore DiMarco wrote: It would appear that in EVE, the only valid playstyles are "Ganker", "Gatecamper" and "F1 Monkey". Other playstyles are only allowed to exist because they can be used as a source of targets for the above. If a particular playstyle cannot be fed upon by one of these three valid playstyles, it must be purged from EVE. Right, guys? /s You left out pathalogical sadist.
Regnag Leppod Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 40	Posted - 2014.09.28 01:20:00 - [15] - Quote Daichi Yamato wrote: Regnag Leppod wrote: You left out pathalogical sadist. save us your sob story LOL. You're the one crying like a butthurt little girl over an experiment on a test server by one of the Devs. It's not like they are removing gates and going to a direct jump system, or forcing everyone to have their safety set to green in high sec (which they have the ability to do, btw). Dojo's aren't some impenetrable safe spot that your precious tear producing targets can just turn on and suddenly hide from you while making billions of isk that you covet so much. It must drive you insane that many people go through life day after day without experiencing pain or suffering.

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